This post is a transcript(non verbatim) on best efforts basis of the webcast available at (
http://spotforge.net/live/icai300812/). Copyright not claimed-I guess it vests with ICAI.
Please do not quote without approval from ICAI and the speaker. The talk was by
CA. Sunil O. Khandelwal,Chief Financial Officer, Alok Industries Limited. He is also Chairman, CMII. The topic of the webcast was Skills of CA- CFO CA- CEO ; CA- Entrepreneur. He has 23 years of experience in the same company(Alok) and has grown to
become CFO, yet humbly says that does not claim to have learnt his job
fully. Without much ado, let us read the tips below.
Caution they said is 2hrs training will not make someone a CEO/CFO etc(not even management books do so!), but guidance on what to imbibe.
- Charming Futuristic Optimistic(CFO)-if CFO does not have a
smile on face giving confidence to top management and others, while
working on problems in mind. Ideally, crisis should come and go without
people getting alarmed, don't show off-true quality of CFO is to give
comfort, act on time.
- Caring for organization/Company's full ownership-feel as if
you are the owner of the company-give your 100% commitment. Leadership
is the 'mindset' not the designation. Organization always watches you
how sincere/committed you are, then only advances you.
- First few years of the career should go to build your knowledge base/understanding
of the company. He has 23 years of experience in the same company, and
everyday learns something new/new way of doing the same company like
raising funds etc.
- What is finance-some feel nothing but giving projections about the
company-revenue/profits/cash flows. But unless you know the ABCD of
balance sheet/critical aspects, how will you project it? So do not
resist doing job of accountant. Don't be hurry to become CEO/CFO on Day1. Take whatever comes your way, show your capability by being meticulous and giving suggestions on controlling cost/areas of improvement, by using your knowledge of the company.
- CFO should be champion of Finance Operations-oath to organization that I will meet all the financial obligations of organization in time and at lowest cost.
- He learnt and grew along with the company for IPO/project
finance/QIP/overseas M&A/FCCB etc, but still feels he has a
long way to go in learning. Accountant(first 4-5yrs), then
taxation/finance/audit role expanded, then as company grew scope shifted
to raising finance. As the company grew, they further began to
specialize, so delegation is the new skillset needed.Job of leader
create everyone in organization capable of becoming CFO.
- Championing Financial Information and compliance-setting up SAP/Oracle, accounting systems etc. When asked about SAP implementation, he said that his only
decision was deciding to go ahead with SAP, and praised his
implementation team for doing it seamlessly[he did not even need to get
involved hands on].
- One of the major job of CFO is ensuring covenants met on time. Also,
interacting with equity research/bankers and keeping them updated about
the company. CFO represents company to all stakeholders-bank,
auditors, consultants, media, investors, Govt, internal, public at
large, and therefore strong hand in communications/marketing/website.
- The definition of CFO that he has learnt in the last one year is Champion of Full Operations
of the Company. Not only having full knowledge of operations but also
getting Contribution From Operations. Hence, not only monitoring/review
system but also making it profitable using our financial
acumen/knowledge. Focus of production guy is quality products, marketing
is what sells but CFO focus is truly finance/costs and can advice
functions accordingly. Also, not only raising working capital for the
company but also reducing working capital cycle/ensuring that it is
effectively used.
- Ensure FCF(Free Cash Flow=Cash Flow from Operations-Working
Capital Increase-Capex) positiveness, which bankers and investors like.
Make people aware about importance of capital/return on capital.
Functions may like capital rich model(buffer stocks, excess capacity,
product variety), but Finance must step in.
- Be aware about business environment, to effectively
strategize. Importance of R&D(not just Apple/Pharma company)-so
CFO needs to have eye on future-innovation.
- Making business sustainable In good environment(high demand,
low cost) its easy, but under any circumstances(SCM bottlenecks, demand
low, cost high, less funds, FX risks), how to make business model
sustainable->effective external risk management and manage
internal risks-actively participate and take ownership. Sustainable cash
flow(ensuing from profitable operations) is must. Even if operations
temporarily loss making, still manage cash flow by managing working
capital(stretching creditors, liquidating debtors/inventory).
Conversely, ensure that additional sales not from increasing
debtors/inventory of company-which leads to negative FCF.
- Has to be effective HR guy, not only within division but
beyond, to inculcate that vision etc even till the shop floor also. So
use experience to suggest HR practices like ESOPs/profit sharing/target
linked incentives etc, for financial impact. Also, quality
initiatives-ISO/process engineering. "If you don't drive the business, you will be driven out of the business"
- While answering audience Q&A -About decision making,
interesting practice in Alok that of 8 member management
committe(including promoters etc), atleast 5 of 8 have to agree else
proposal is withdrawn. About cost reduction, advices that
sustainable suppliers also needed, so negotiate as per supplier
need(immediate payment cash discount, help supplier open L/C with bank,
volume discounts, reduce cost of sourcing by inventory management etc,
keeping them informed proactively if payment details, e-bidding for pre
qualified bidders). When asked about a difficulty faced, said
that everyday is a challenge to win the battle, especially for highly
geared company(!), for example he said that stock hammered down 30% in
past few days and they have to face those stakeholders openly &
confidently.When asked about life of CFO, joked that his wife is
his second wife(job is first wife!). If his company is doing well, his
family will be proud. Rajkumar Adukia said that for those mobile, the
world is their playground. Family needs to be taken care but ideally
tell them 'I am there for you but priorities are XXX'-he had missed
moments but has no regrets as family is ok-if he's not in office he's at
home-no social life partying etc.
Wellknown consultant CA
RajKumar Adukia advised on how a CA can become a business leader,
focusing on mindset(can-do, fire in the belly). He also said that inquiring attitude(to add value to that activity/reduce its cost) via
professional skepticism, is the best learning from the CA course. CA should play role of doctor(solution giver) not of policeman! Use
sound technical knowledge, ability to meet deadlines(honed under articleship training) while working under pressure, and good analytical ability to add value. Five minimum qualities for professional as per him acronym KILL P
- Knowledge A professional should not have any boundary for knowledge(keep learning till we retire in profession) and achievement(strive till the last breath despite limitations ). Else, even senior people(say President Finance) may not be functional leaders if they need to ask VP/Sr Mgr for each and every new thing/amendment! Have inquiring attitude of general knowledge/learning. He also advices seminars, post qualification courses etc.
- Interact with persons smarter than oneself
- Listening very attentively when we are in meeting/GD, and THEN give our response. He observes that even practising CAs listen to clients for 5mins, quote a fee, and then when complexity unfolded fully, they regret that should have quoted more.
- Learn from mistakes of others Many success stories of CEOs who are CAs vs those who have not excelled, try to compare and contrast. Books/Code of Ethics are also a good way.
- Making presence felt by writing/speaking etc, on burning issues/analysis etc. Rajkumar Adukia himself is himself an expert on this-just see his website! Also, one needs executive presence to be able to assume leadership roles one day. Developing and learning soft skills(presentations in branches/chapters/study circles, joining Toastmasters)